ATC vote to take Protected Industrial action against Airservices Australia.
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I have a student who is UK trained ATC now moved to Australia. Experience in very busy airspace around London. Sent off an application to Airservices in February and nobody has bothered to even acknowledge his application.
While flying with him on Friday afternoon, Jandakot tower packed up and went home 3 hours early, having had restricted/no circuits all day. This is costing the industry dearly already. It's hard to know if PIA will actually make any difference, it is the GA operators who will be hurt the most. I'm all for them getting better conditions but it's going to come at a massive cost to others, it already has. Every session of circuits we can't do costs hundreds of dollars in lost revenue.
Time to lobby some senators and get them asking questions of who TF is in charge at Airservices.
While flying with him on Friday afternoon, Jandakot tower packed up and went home 3 hours early, having had restricted/no circuits all day. This is costing the industry dearly already. It's hard to know if PIA will actually make any difference, it is the GA operators who will be hurt the most. I'm all for them getting better conditions but it's going to come at a massive cost to others, it already has. Every session of circuits we can't do costs hundreds of dollars in lost revenue.
Time to lobby some senators and get them asking questions of who TF is in charge at Airservices.
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I have a student who is UK trained ATC now moved to Australia. Experience in very busy airspace around London. Sent off an application to Airservices in February and nobody has bothered to even acknowledge his application.
While flying with him on Friday afternoon, Jandakot tower packed up and went home 3 hours early, having had restricted/no circuits all day. This is costing the industry dearly already. It's hard to know if PIA will actually make any difference, it is the GA operators who will be hurt the most. I'm all for them getting better conditions but it's going to come at a massive cost to others, it already has. Every session of circuits we can't do costs hundreds of dollars in lost revenue.
Time to lobby some senators and get them asking questions of who TF is in charge at Airservices.
While flying with him on Friday afternoon, Jandakot tower packed up and went home 3 hours early, having had restricted/no circuits all day. This is costing the industry dearly already. It's hard to know if PIA will actually make any difference, it is the GA operators who will be hurt the most. I'm all for them getting better conditions but it's going to come at a massive cost to others, it already has. Every session of circuits we can't do costs hundreds of dollars in lost revenue.
Time to lobby some senators and get them asking questions of who TF is in charge at Airservices.
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Indeed. It's mostly about politics, not principle.
I have a student who is UK trained ATC now moved to Australia. Experience in very busy airspace around London. Sent off an application to Airservices in February and nobody has bothered to even acknowledge his application.
While flying with him on Friday afternoon, Jandakot tower packed up and went home 3 hours early, having had restricted/no circuits all day. This is costing the industry dearly already. It's hard to know if PIA will actually make any difference, it is the GA operators who will be hurt the most. I'm all for them getting better conditions but it's going to come at a massive cost to others, it already has. Every session of circuits we can't do costs hundreds of dollars in lost revenue.
Time to lobby some senators and get them asking questions of who TF is in charge at Airservices.
While flying with him on Friday afternoon, Jandakot tower packed up and went home 3 hours early, having had restricted/no circuits all day. This is costing the industry dearly already. It's hard to know if PIA will actually make any difference, it is the GA operators who will be hurt the most. I'm all for them getting better conditions but it's going to come at a massive cost to others, it already has. Every session of circuits we can't do costs hundreds of dollars in lost revenue.
Time to lobby some senators and get them asking questions of who TF is in charge at Airservices.
In your example for Jandakot, without knowing exactly it sounds to me like they were already short staffed and the ATC on duty were at their maximum operational hours for the day and there was likely no one else available to keep the tower open.
Jandakot tower packed up and went home 3 hours early, having had restricted/no circuits all day.
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Up to 5 aircraft on the main runway only, parallel circuit runway NAVBL outside tower hours (just had to check ERSA to make sure that hadn't changed).
unfortunately most of the time it is the poor old GA operators that cop the brunt of it before anyone else, and it’s heartbreaking to see.
In your example for Jandakot, without knowing exactly it sounds to me like they were already short staffed and the ATC on duty were at their maximum operational hours for the day and there was likely no one else available to keep the tower open.
In your example for Jandakot, without knowing exactly it sounds to me like they were already short staffed and the ATC on duty were at their maximum operational hours for the day and there was likely no one else available to keep the tower open.
So I don't accept staff shortages as a reason for this. This has been going on for several months. Various different voices have come and gone but they still restrict the circuit operations. Someone is probably getting KPIs and pocketing bonuses in Canberra and we have to deal with yet another nail in GA's coffin.
Every time we send a disappointed student home who hasn't been able to have their circuit lesson costs us $500 and this can happen several times a week. Of course the airport leaseholders aren't getting their landing fees either, so they will probably just crank up the rents to cover it. And on it goes.
And yet my student at the time is an ATC from the London area who has moved here, applied to Airservices in February for a job and has never even had a response to his expression of interest. It looks from the website like they only want overseas qualified controllers in Queensland, and only Victoria needs trainees, even though it is way beyond crisis point in WA. Current opportunities - Airservices (airservicesaustralia.com)
So I don't accept staff shortages as a reason for this. This has been going on for several months. Various different voices have come and gone but they still restrict the circuit operations. Someone is probably getting KPIs and pocketing bonuses in Canberra and we have to deal with yet another nail in GA's coffin.
Every time we send a disappointed student home who hasn't been able to have their circuit lesson costs us $500 and this can happen several times a week. Of course the airport leaseholders aren't getting their landing fees either, so they will probably just crank up the rents to cover it. And on it goes.
So I don't accept staff shortages as a reason for this. This has been going on for several months. Various different voices have come and gone but they still restrict the circuit operations. Someone is probably getting KPIs and pocketing bonuses in Canberra and we have to deal with yet another nail in GA's coffin.
Every time we send a disappointed student home who hasn't been able to have their circuit lesson costs us $500 and this can happen several times a week. Of course the airport leaseholders aren't getting their landing fees either, so they will probably just crank up the rents to cover it. And on it goes.
I believe there is 3 or 4 trainee at JT at the moment (not certain so don't take that as gospel) so hopefully the restrictions will ease as they come online. I realise that doesn't help the immediate problem but hopefully some light in the tunnel somewhere.
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This has been going on for months, New voices come and go but the situation doesn't change.
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I don't see why Air Services should give anything to the current workforce. The current staff turnover is one of the lowest of any government department. If things are so terrible as people on this forum keep complaining about, then why is our retention so high.
The board has the full support from the minister, he knows the retention numbers and I can guarantee you that he will be in no rush to support the union.
The same voices who complain and post about everything over and over again should just go. But they won't, they will just keep enjoying their massive paycheck, unlimited sick leave and 6 weeks of leave every year.
The board has the full support from the minister, he knows the retention numbers and I can guarantee you that he will be in no rush to support the union.
The same voices who complain and post about everything over and over again should just go. But they won't, they will just keep enjoying their massive paycheck, unlimited sick leave and 6 weeks of leave every year.
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I don't see why Air Services should give anything to the current workforce. The current staff turnover is one of the lowest of any government department. If things are so terrible as people on this forum keep complaining about, then why is our retention so high.
The board has the full support from the minister, he knows the retention numbers and I can guarantee you that he will be in no rush to support the union.
The same voices who complain and post about everything over and over again should just go. But they won't, they will just keep enjoying their massive paycheck, unlimited sick leave and 6 weeks of leave every year.
The board has the full support from the minister, he knows the retention numbers and I can guarantee you that he will be in no rush to support the union.
The same voices who complain and post about everything over and over again should just go. But they won't, they will just keep enjoying their massive paycheck, unlimited sick leave and 6 weeks of leave every year.
I don't see why Air Services should give anything to the current workforce. The current staff turnover is one of the lowest of any government department. If things are so terrible as people on this forum keep complaining about, then why is our retention so high.
The board has the full support from the minister, he knows the retention numbers and I can guarantee you that he will be in no rush to support the union.
The same voices who complain and post about everything over and over again should just go. But they won't, they will just keep enjoying their massive paycheck, unlimited sick leave and 6 weeks of leave every year.
The board has the full support from the minister, he knows the retention numbers and I can guarantee you that he will be in no rush to support the union.
The same voices who complain and post about everything over and over again should just go. But they won't, they will just keep enjoying their massive paycheck, unlimited sick leave and 6 weeks of leave every year.
How about actually giving something to the people who are paying for it, customers or clients or whatever we are. How about giving us some air traffic services so that we can get our jobs done. At the moment the "service" is not fit for purpose, that is no reflection on the peeps in the tower.
If the retention rates are so high then why are we being told that we have to wait for the new trainees to come on line, and why do we hear the new voices for a few weeks then they are gone, to be replaced by another and another and still we have "Circuits are restricted"?
How long do we have to wait and how many millions of dollars must it cost industry while we wait?
If the retention rates are so high then why are we being told that we have to wait for the new trainees to come on line, and why do we hear the new voices for a few weeks then they are gone, to be replaced by another and another and still we have "Circuits are restricted"?
How long do we have to wait and how many millions of dollars must it cost industry while we wait?