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Old 25th Nov 2021, 22:16
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I see and hear in the Media a JetStar Pilot has been arrested for an alleged crime.
Why do journalists use " sensationalism " headings such as this?
These so called journalists just have to embellish the story to grab attention so it seems.
One would be sure that if he was a taxi driver that would not have been noteworthy enough!!
Anything to make a story better even if it is irrelevant.
Very poor reporting IMOP.
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Old 25th Nov 2021, 22:28
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Originally Posted by RodH View Post
I see and hear in the Media a JetStar Pilot has been arrested for an alleged crime.
Why do journalists use " sensationalism " headings such as this?
These so called journalists just have to embellish the story to grab attention so it seems.
One would be sure that if he was a taxi driver that would not have been noteworthy enough!!
Anything to make a story better even if it is irrelevant.
Very poor reporting IMOP.
Also happens if they're a sports star, doctor, lawer, politician.

It actually shows how much in esteem the profession is held that it's so note-worthy when someone goes off the reservation.
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Old 25th Nov 2021, 22:34
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Simple

Pilots are meant to be a trusted profession, at times making it into the top 3 on the “Most Trusted Professions” list:

Australia's most trusted professions

If a brickie’s labourer or a traffic controller allegedly commits a murder no one really cares, but one of Australia’s “most trusted professions” will attract attention.

It would be the same if a Doctor was alleged to have committed one, as they are a trusted professions their job description would probably be in the headline too.

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Old 25th Nov 2021, 22:53
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Simple

Pilots are meant to be a trusted profession, at times making it into the top 3 on the “Most Trusted Professions” list:

Australia's most trusted professions

If a brickie’s labourer or a traffic controller allegedly commits a murder no one really cares, but one of Australia’s “most trusted professions” will attract attention.

It would be the same if a Doctor was alleged to have committed one, as they are a trusted professions their job description would probably be in the headline too.

this.

add in the fact that pilots take the lives of hundreds of people into their hands every time they turn up for work. And yet this one allegedly had no qualms taking two lives. I think the public would be thinking how they would feel flying on a flight, putting their lives in his hands when he had allegedly taken others.
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Old 25th Nov 2021, 23:48
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An Airbus check Captain doesn’t fit the murderer profile. I nearly fell over when I heard the news reporting a checkie was arrested.

These are highly skilled, paid, and well regarded professionals by the public. The safety of thousands are in my hands daily, they put trust in me, and my team deliver it back to them.

Still can’t sort of believe the whole thing and the type of person involved, but it is what it is.
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Old 26th Nov 2021, 00:20
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Originally Posted by dr dre View Post
It would be the same if a Doctor was alleged to have committed one, as they are a trusted professions their job description would probably be in the headline too.
Job description, maybe.
but not employer name, over and over again.

why is this guy not just “a pilot”?

J* legal and PR must be annoyed I would think!
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Old 26th Nov 2021, 00:21
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PJ,

I agree with your posting .. it is what it is.
I posted on a previous thread alas the thread was closed down. Hopefully not because of what I said. I assume not as I did not receive any cautionary PM's from a moderator.
I knew the pilot many years ago, he is an agro person and a loner. Mind you it all depends in which context you know the person.
I always believed the coroner erred in his decision on the death of the said pilot's first wife. But the coroner can only base his decision on the information placed before him.
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Old 26th Nov 2021, 00:25
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In a brief hearing this morning he was charged with two counts of murder. He did not apply for bail.
The next hearing is set for May 2022. An ABC reporter said the distant date is due to the complexity of the case.
Whatever the legal reasons, the delay gives police more time to find the victims and the missing trailer.

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Old 26th Nov 2021, 00:40
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Originally Posted by Office Update View Post
I posted on a previous thread alas the thread was closed down. Hopefully not because of what I said.
Nope, not closed, it just got moved to Jet Blast.
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Old 26th Nov 2021, 01:47
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In response to the original post.

This crime has been one of the most high-profile and confusing cases in recent times in Victoria. The fact that a person who worked in one of the most trusted professions, who was well off and who had over his life literally had thousands of people in his hands was charged just adds another layer to the whole story.
People often associate murder with a drug addict, 'down and outs' with mental health problems, the polar opposite to what they see in a pilot.

The fact his job is being put at the forefront of the story should in a way make us all prouder to pull on the uniform, reminding us that the general public holds us in high regard and that to them we aren't just glorified, bus drivers.
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Old 26th Nov 2021, 03:04
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This guy should have been behind bars about 22 years ago. And I understand that the Victorian Police are likely going to reopen the investigation of the murder of his wife. And yes, regarding the initial post, anything that violates the public trust that we enjoy is instant news.
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Old 26th Nov 2021, 03:08
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Best to give any information you have directly to the authorities and restrain speculation here, being an active court case now.
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Old 26th Nov 2021, 03:12
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Originally Posted by 43Inches View Post
Best to give any information you have directly to the authorities and restrain speculation here, being an active court case now.
I have, as have many others. They are quite aware, hence the deep dive into the past, including civil atrocities.
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Old 26th Nov 2021, 03:37
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The fact his job is being put at the forefront of the story should in a way make us all prouder to pull on the uniform, reminding us that the general public holds us in high regard and that to them we aren't just glorified, bus drivers.
Sorry for the thread drift but it's a real shame many pilots these days don't see themselves this way and have no pride in their uniform. I'm sure it's a reflection on their morale with the company but don't let it affect the professional image the public look up to.
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Old 26th Nov 2021, 03:39
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Interesting AP. The car is odd. It's supposed to be a white '97 Patrol according to the rego. It's not white. It's not a '97 Patrol. Police were looking for a blue Patrol that is now beige that should be white (and, at least) carrying plates from a different model. Why so many changes? How many other people change their cars and/or plates like that? Although, if you are going to kill someone, as crew, I'm sure I'm not alone in suggesting you do it in your free time, ie: whilst not at work. Best to keep your hobby on the down low, far less dramatic!
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Old 26th Nov 2021, 04:50
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Do you need to be a nice person to be a pilot ?
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Old 26th Nov 2021, 04:55
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Old 26th Nov 2021, 05:29
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Is it legal to stand an employee down for being accused of a crime?
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Old 26th Nov 2021, 05:35
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Originally Posted by PoppaJo View Post
An Airbus check Captain doesn’t fit the murderer profile. I nearly fell over when I heard the news reporting a checkie was arrested.
What's the profile of a murderer? History is littered with convicted killers who didn't fit the stereotype.

Ted Bundy was known as completely charming, a volunteer at a suicide helpline, tertiary educated, and murdered 33 women.
Richar Angelo was a nurse and volunteer firefighter who poisoned a number of his patients.
Harold Shipman was a respected UK doctor who murdered 15 of his patients then falsified medical records to indicate they were in poor health.

Same goes for "sudden killers" - people who have no previous record or pattern of poor behaviour. I haven't even got started on that one but it's a long, long list. Stereotypes are a powerful bias in our minds but ultimately the evidence either shows that they did, or they didn't.
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Old 26th Nov 2021, 05:42
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Dare I say, pilots are still human and thus, just as susceptible to the torments of life, and ultimately capable of the most heinous of crimes as anybody else -
Numerous pilots have been charged, and jailed for Murder, Rape, Child Abuse over the years.
For purposes of this debate, lets realise 3 of the most horrific acts of mass murderers of all time, just so happened to be committed by pilots!
Gameel Al-Batouti / Egypt Air 990
Andreas Lubitz / Germanwings 9525
Tsu Way Ming / Silk Air 185
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