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Old 25th Sep 2021, 12:55
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Originally Posted by treadigraph View Post
My petrol station is empty.

A selfish-filling-up prophecy...
Go and stand in the corner !
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Old 25th Sep 2021, 13:03
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There's no fuel like an old fuel...
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Old 25th Sep 2021, 16:08
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Originally Posted by ATNotts View Post
Curiously someone on the radio said that they aren't as well paid as drivers for the likes of Tesco which since they do need additional qualifications seems perverse.
This blog suggests otherwise:
BP retail deliveries are contracted out to the logistics group, Hoyer. And it is unlikely that its workforce has been affected by the exodus of migrant workers. Tanker drivers are regarded as the "aristocracy" of the driving fraternity, and are better paid than average. The current Hoyer website advertises vacancies with salaries ranging from £37,500 to £56,000, with substantial benefits and training. Jobs are highly sought after by the indigenous workforce.
Hoyer, as a company, operates from 30 sites throughout the UK, yet it currently lists only 20 driving vacancies – not all of them for tanker drivers. That checks out with the Guardian which says that Hoyer is understood to have up to 450 drivers delivering fuel to BP on any given day - about 20 fewer than it needs. That is hardly a catastrophe.
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Old 25th Sep 2021, 17:04
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At least the BBC had an appropriately named reporter to cover one of the shortages...
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Old 25th Sep 2021, 17:29
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Although this is tongue-in-cheek, and canny marketing...could it be prophetic?


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Old 25th Sep 2021, 17:33
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Originally Posted by Fareastdriver View Post
It is all right shouting that we should import HGV drivers from the EU but what are their skill levels like? A British HGV driver has to go through a severe driving and regulations test whereas what does an EU driver has to do. Get an HGV licence to go with his military driving licence when he leaves the Army?
Did you not hear Grant Shapps saying we can train drivers faster now we don't have to meet the level required by the EU?
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Old 25th Sep 2021, 19:44
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I think we will see further problems ahead when currently employed drivers start becoming mercenaries by moving to other haulage companies offering silly money. Not that I would blame them of course, but it will all end in tears (like it usually does).
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Old 25th Sep 2021, 20:30
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There are well documented cases of shortages being the direct result of an erroneous report of a shortage. One of the best known on this side of pond occurred back in the 1970's. On night, comedian Johnny Carson (The Tonight Show), during his monologue made a joke regarding a reported toilet paper shortage. The shortage was indeed real, but it only applied to the commercial type - the stuff they use in industrial sites or highway rest stops, which is somewhat, ah, rougher than the soft stuff most people used at home - but Johnny Carson didn't make that distinction. Sure enough, people heard this and immediately started panic buying of the 'good stuff' toilet paper which - within 24 hours - created an actual shortage that persisted for weeks.
Shows just how finely balanced (and ultimately fragile) our production/distribution systems can be.
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Old 25th Sep 2021, 20:41
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I filled up tonight purely because I had the fuel light on, there was just the normal amount of people.
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Old 25th Sep 2021, 20:48
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There was a queue at the petrol station immediately outside where I work today. I got to work at just before 6am and left at about 3pm.
The queue never seemed to get longer than about 12 cars, but it persisted all day. I'll see if it's the same tomorrow.
I am hoping it will sort itself out by next week
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Old 26th Sep 2021, 10:44
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What I don’t understand is, if there is a shortage of drivers this week causing fuel delivery problems, where are all the delivery drivers that were delivering fuel last week without shortage problems?
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Old 26th Sep 2021, 10:54
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The shortage of fuel was caused by selfish individuals egged on by the irresponsible media, broadcast, online and print.

Now, a quiz question:

Which of the following are the most people addicted to?

a. Nicotine
b. Alcohol
c. Cannabis
d. Motor Fuel

Anyone need help answering?
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Old 26th Sep 2021, 10:57
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... think you might have missed an answer ...

e. Self-deception, woke culture and 'me first'
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Old 26th Sep 2021, 11:22
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Agree, but what I meant was. The reason given by the media for the shortages was that there were not enough drivers. However, there appeared to be enough driver s a week or so ago. Have they all retired or been “pinged”?
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Old 26th Sep 2021, 12:34
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Originally Posted by Meldrew View Post
What I don’t understand is, if there is a shortage of drivers this week causing fuel delivery problems, where are all the delivery drivers that were delivering fuel last week without shortage problems?

I can only hope that this was a bit of 'Devil's Advocacy'
If, however, it was a serious question, a very minor trawl through serious news sources will provide the information ... available to, but not acted upon by, our 'Government'
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Old 26th Sep 2021, 13:56
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Originally Posted by Meldrew View Post
Agree, but what I meant was. The reason given by the media for the shortages was that there were not enough drivers. However, there appeared to be enough driver s a week or so ago. Have they all retired or been “pinged”?
There was a shortage of motor fuel truck drivers over the last number of weeks, but as hauliers do, they got by. It was only irresponsible journalists that exposed the problem, then egged it up by telling people "don't panic". Of course those two words, whether or not written in friendly pink writing ( ref. Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy) instil panic in a certain section of the population.
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Old 26th Sep 2021, 16:32
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available to, but not acted upon by, our 'Government'
Of course - it's the governments fault. Don't employers do any planning?
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Old 26th Sep 2021, 16:53
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB View Post
Of course - it's the governments fault. Don't employers do any planning?
As far as I know, the Armed Forces, Police and Emergency services are the only organisations that have an ethos of recruiting, employment long training and succession planning. Most other organisations prefer, as far as possible, to recruit already trained personnel in order to minimise in-house training costs. Succession planning is anathema to many managers as it makes them vulnerable to replacement.
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Old 26th Sep 2021, 16:54
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB View Post
Of course - it's the governments fault. Don't employers do any planning?
Employers plan.....to turn the maximum profit by keeping the lid on costs. What they see as unnecessary cost (training of new drivers) has contributed to the mess we now see in the fuel and food distribution sector. That is contributed, the greatest culprit is Brexit and the UK's insistence on "taking back control" even though, in reality it never lost control.
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Old 26th Sep 2021, 18:00
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Of course - it's the governments fault. Don't employers do any planning?
Quite happy to be corrected, but I'm fairly certain that employers don't have any power to issue visas, dictate who can and cannot enter the country, amend the Road Traffic Act and associated legal requirements to licence specialist driving licences. These Governmental roles our current incumbents have signally failed to note the need for, plan to implement or make any significant effort to address.
That this should be so, is not, in any way, surprising, since it follows a pattern established since the Buffoon's attainment of his 'boyhood dream'. That attainment was relatively simple ... act as the front runner and 'fall guy' for the ingrained chauvinism and xenophobia of a bunch of raving zealots. That latter group cannot. mentally, progress beyond the era of the King Emperor and are unable to understand why their fellow countrymen aren't rushing to fall at their feet in delirious joy.
What did we do to deserve this ? Fail to understand the 'snake oil salesmen' tactics of the 'taking back control' of something which hadn't been lost.

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