Lockheed Jetstar
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Lockheed Jetstar
I was recently looking at some photos I have and one was of a Lockheed Jetstar. This made me wonder if any of those gas guzzling VIP transports still fly? I ventured over to airliners.net to see if any of their photos showed recent action. They did not. So, does any of the forumites know of any of these classic jets which still ply their trade in the wild blue yonder? I remember seeing a few of them back in the early 90s while at Chino. Mostly Mexican registered, and stored on a ramp adjacent to Charlie Nichols Yanks on the western side of the field. Never saw any of them fly in or out. In fact, never seen one fly!
T J
T J
Nigel Mansell used to fly in one in the late '90s; apparently whenever he went to Leuchars (for golf) he used to use a callsign similar to a royal flight and it annoyed the RAF!
In this 2019 video one jetstar return to Cobb field somebody says This is 1 of the last 4 flying then.
on Facebook there is something about last flights sept -dec 2020 of 3 jets last Flights to be broken up for re-use of the engines in Da-50
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One-half century ago (tempus fugit!), I was living in my hometown of Atlanta and friends with a very nice lad my age, Walker Birdsong, whose father was the chief sales representative for the Lockheed Jetstar. Lockheed's headquarters were in Marietta, Georgia, about 12 miles north of "Hotlanner". Walker and his Dad offered me a ride on a newly-minted Jetstar, which I readily accepted. The flight was almost an hour in duration and we reached 30,000 ft. at 550 m.p.h. The cabin seated 10 and felt somewhat cramped and the noise level was not "whisper quiet". This was my first and only experience as a passenger in a corporate jet and I was awestruck. I still want one all these years later! Goldfinger, Pussy Galore, and Bond....
- Ed
- Ed
The JetStar was an amazing machine for its time.
I can't recall any other aircraft that had an all-flying tailplane that was rigidly attached to the fin. Go figure.
I can't recall any other aircraft that had an all-flying tailplane that was rigidly attached to the fin. Go figure.
One-half century ago (tempus fugit!), I was living in my hometown of Atlanta and friends with a very nice lad my age, Walker Birdsong, whose father was the chief sales representative for the Lockheed Jetstar. Lockheed's headquarters were in Marietta, Georgia, about 12 miles north of "Hotlanner". Walker and his Dad offered me a ride on a newly-minted Jetstar, which I readily accepted. The flight was almost an hour in duration and we reached 30,000 ft. at 550 m.p.h. The cabin seated 10 and felt somewhat cramped and the noise level was not "whisper quiet". This was my first and only experience as a passenger in a corporate jet and I was awestruck. I still want one all these years later! Goldfinger, Pussy Galore, and Bond....
- Ed
- Ed
I can't recall any other aircraft that had an all-flying tailplane that was rigidly attached to the fin
It was the noise which 'killed' it; one of the first aircraft to be banned at Farnborough
Lockheed made a big pitch to Associated Airlines in Oz and had the chief pilot, who I knew, spend much time in the US flying the aircraft. The airline was the executive transport arm of the BHP company and not an airline as such. The aircraft was not deemed suitable to their needs and they purchased a G1 a year before the Jetstar gained certification instead.
They just copied the Mooney light aircraft Dave. Would it be correct to assume chevvron that would have been the early version fitted with the Pratt & Whitney JT12s, production swapped to the Garrett TFE731 turbofan because of noise, an engine widely used in biz jets such as Lear and Jet Commander.
Would it be correct to assume chevvron that would have been the early version fitted with the Pratt & Whitney JT12s, production swapped to the Garrett TFE731 turbofan because of noise, an engine widely used in biz jets such as Lear and Jet Commander.
Don't know about that; it certainly sounded noisy to the ear but of course that means nothing, however the G2 and G3 with Speys got banned at Farnborough at the same time (apart from 'hush kitted' G3s); with a newly developed airfield surrounded by NIMBYs the operators wanted to be pro-active with noise regulaions.
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The JetStar's competitor, the prototype McDonnell 119/220 is still stored at El Paso - a sort of mini DC-8. Changed flights at El Paso around 20 years ago, if I'd known it was there I might have whipped out of the terminal to to take a peek! Unfortunately we landed/departed on R/W 22 from which it would probably have been invisible...
Always liked the JetStar, like the GII/GIII proper GA iron!
Always liked the JetStar, like the GII/GIII proper GA iron!
Not only that, there were records of some flying throughout the night!(the stats included the number of movements for every hour of the day/night)
Even in my day (1974 until the finish of Experimental Flying in 1995) we had the occasional Hunter, Jaguar and Buccaneer operating as late as 11pm or even midnight and helicopters until about 3 am.
The Iraqi and Libyan Govt Jetstars we regular visitors to London's airports in the 70's/80's, looking spectacular in their respective national airline liveries.
Also, once saw FAA Jetstar N1 paying a visit to Stansted
Such a purposeful looking aircraft
Also, once saw FAA Jetstar N1 paying a visit to Stansted
Such a purposeful looking aircraft
I vaguely recall a Jetstar which seemed to do a 'regular' run to Luxor from Farnborough.
TCU, back in my enthisiast (spotting) days early 60s a couple of fellow fans and I sneaked up to the edge of the long gone, once famous 'Fields' hangar, at LHR (around where T4 is now) to see the the same FAA jetstar. A super cool plane back then- and the FAAs private jet with the incredible N1 registration . As a spotter you were never ever going to surpass that.
As has been pointed out the Sabreliner was a contemporary but in place of four jets and big extrernal wing tanks all it could offer was a rather odd cockpit with too much glazing (ie the roof) and weird Caravelle style triangular cabin windows.
As has been pointed out the Sabreliner was a contemporary but in place of four jets and big extrernal wing tanks all it could offer was a rather odd cockpit with too much glazing (ie the roof) and weird Caravelle style triangular cabin windows.
Another extremely attractive JetStar. Amongst other uses, these were used to fly LBJ up and down between Washington DC and his Texas ranch. A runway was constructed at the ranch to facilitate this.