Disgusting Jetstar
picked up when they were looking for a female name and ther was a male name in the seat.
Or they just could have seen him do it.
If they had asked the cabin crew if they could swap and been given permission, especially in the hustle and bustle of boarding, is that ever noted anywhere? Is the change radioed or ACARS back to base so that the all important paperwork is kept up to date. My a*se it ever would be.
As for the vital "paperwork", there is no need for anyone on board to even prove they are who they claim to be anyway. There is no requirement to show ID buying the ticket, checking in, getting on board, or after seating to confirm that the right people are in the right seat (apparently a vital safety consideration!). So what does it really matter who sits where? If the head count (that's if they even do one) matches the expected number they're closing the door and going. They wouldn't have a clue who is actually on board or who is sitting where. It's all just assumptions.
they got away with it at launch because the limits applicable to the weight and balance envelope contained substantial buffers to accommodate that system rather than an index effect for each kg in each seat based on passenger weight. Please learn something about weight and balance before making such a statement.
Each kg in each seat
I believe their system works on 3 aircraft zones and not on the individual seat. So a person can be anywhere in a particular zone (front or back) yet have no effect on the weight and balance calculations.
Please get your facts right before making false statements. Seems obvious here who doesn't know about weight and balance.
Last edited by John Citizen; 23rd Mar 2023 at 22:12.
Actually it's been going off the rails since the end of the first world war when people discovered those in authority were mostly incompetent.
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So if he had swapped seats without asking after take off would they have turned the plane around and had the police meet them on the tarmac?
How very Australian.
There is a minor seating issue, CC can't be bothered to make the effort to help so the pax sorts it out for himself with a another. Uh Oh, he didn't count on the hurt EGO did he, so let the escalation begin. Oh, and the cops were just waiting to bring out their thuggery.
There is a minor seating issue, CC can't be bothered to make the effort to help so the pax sorts it out for himself with a another. Uh Oh, he didn't count on the hurt EGO did he, so let the escalation begin. Oh, and the cops were just waiting to bring out their thuggery.
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Day Jar Voo, so tell us pray tell how you would handle this belligerent and defiant individual?? While you are at you might like to enlighten us why it is “very Australian”.
I often found back when I was an airline Capitano that on the ground it was fairly easy to diffuse a situation by the Captain just being present.
Pax who had paid for emergency exit but had crutches, pax paid for xyz but some other issue, pax etc…..
I would never compromise the CSM’s position but merely assist. Often at times just standing in the galley when issues, amazing how quickly passengers would change their tune with CC when Captain came out.
Of course I have no idea what happened in this instance, however it is amazing that a situation can get to the taser point.
Not every pilot has the confidence to step out the flight deck (yes only on the ground), but as I said, personally I saw the change in pax behaviour several times by doing this.
Pax who had paid for emergency exit but had crutches, pax paid for xyz but some other issue, pax etc…..
I would never compromise the CSM’s position but merely assist. Often at times just standing in the galley when issues, amazing how quickly passengers would change their tune with CC when Captain came out.
Of course I have no idea what happened in this instance, however it is amazing that a situation can get to the taser point.
Not every pilot has the confidence to step out the flight deck (yes only on the ground), but as I said, personally I saw the change in pax behaviour several times by doing this.
I noticed CC (and police?) instructing passengers quite firmly not to film. Anyone know the legal position regarding this?
Public areas are fair game. Notice our ever friendly media will film in a public terminal but not inside a privately owned aircraft.
There is a caveat if you believe an offence is being committed.
Is the interior of an aircraft providing public transport considered private property, I would say yes. different rules apply for public and private property? Public is OK, private property the owner dictates the rules.
https://lawpath.com.au/blog/legal-film-public-places
https://lawpath.com.au/blog/legal-film-public-places
He got what he asked for.
Shut up, listen and stop arguing.
If sitting in a cramped tin can stresses you too
much, you will have to look for a different mode of transportation.
”Get the police and I will go.”
Well, he didn’t,
didn’t shut up,
didn’t listen - behaves like a dog - and is treated like one.
Get him off the plane and get everyone else to where they want to go!
Shut up, listen and stop arguing.
If sitting in a cramped tin can stresses you too
much, you will have to look for a different mode of transportation.
”Get the police and I will go.”
Well, he didn’t,
didn’t shut up,
didn’t listen - behaves like a dog - and is treated like one.
Get him off the plane and get everyone else to where they want to go!
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I often found back when I was an airline Capitano that on the ground it was fairly easy to diffuse a situation by the Captain just being present.
Pax who had paid for emergency exit but had crutches, pax paid for xyz but some other issue, pax etc…..
I would never compromise the CSM’s position but merely assist. Often at times just standing in the galley when issues, amazing how quickly passengers would change their tune with CC when Captain came out.
Of course I have no idea what happened in this instance, however it is amazing that a situation can get to the taser point.
Not every pilot has the confidence to step out the flight deck (yes only on the ground), but as I said, personally I saw the change in pax behaviour several times by doing this.
Pax who had paid for emergency exit but had crutches, pax paid for xyz but some other issue, pax etc…..
I would never compromise the CSM’s position but merely assist. Often at times just standing in the galley when issues, amazing how quickly passengers would change their tune with CC when Captain came out.
Of course I have no idea what happened in this instance, however it is amazing that a situation can get to the taser point.
Not every pilot has the confidence to step out the flight deck (yes only on the ground), but as I said, personally I saw the change in pax behaviour several times by doing this.
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So many uneducated/unwashed /know it all DHs on this forum nowadays, oh the joys of the internet.
I sit here staring in disbelief at some of the idiot comments on here, particularly by non transport category pilots/SLF.
Old mate booked seats that weren't together, probably to get a good deal, end of frigging story. Wether or not you hate Jetstar this is not their fault. They weren't sending old mate off to the Russian front for 20 years, just asking him to sit in his allocated seat for a few hours, possibly within earshot of his beloved new born child.
Faaark some people really need to get the F over themselves
I sit here staring in disbelief at some of the idiot comments on here, particularly by non transport category pilots/SLF.
Old mate booked seats that weren't together, probably to get a good deal, end of frigging story. Wether or not you hate Jetstar this is not their fault. They weren't sending old mate off to the Russian front for 20 years, just asking him to sit in his allocated seat for a few hours, possibly within earshot of his beloved new born child.
Faaark some people really need to get the F over themselves
Is the interior of an aircraft providing public transport considered private property, I would say yes.
So in summary, by the letter of the law if crew ask you to stop filming and you don’t then you have failed to follow a lawful instruction and can be removed from the aircraft. Good luck with that.
It’s all in the how right? If I quietly ask the CM if I can swap if the other passenger agrees and make a point of being polite and respectful it would probably be successful. This tool behaved like a child.
So many uneducated/unwashed /know it all DHs on this forum nowadays, oh the joys of the internet.
I sit here staring in disbelief at some of the idiot comments on here, particularly by non transport category pilots/SLF.
Old mate booked seats that weren't together, probably to get a good deal, end of frigging story. Wether or not you hate Jetstar this is not their fault. They weren't sending old mate off to the Russian front for 20 years, just asking him to sit in his allocated seat for a few hours, possibly within earshot of his beloved new born child.
Faaark some people really need to get the F over themselves
I sit here staring in disbelief at some of the idiot comments on here, particularly by non transport category pilots/SLF.
Old mate booked seats that weren't together, probably to get a good deal, end of frigging story. Wether or not you hate Jetstar this is not their fault. They weren't sending old mate off to the Russian front for 20 years, just asking him to sit in his allocated seat for a few hours, possibly within earshot of his beloved new born child.
Faaark some people really need to get the F over themselves
Recently spent 3 months travelling around Europe on trains, aircraft and ferries. Bought tickets, often printed with a seat number, over which I had no control.
Found seat, sat down, made the most of the scenery.or food (such as it was), got to destination at the same time as the other hundreds on board. Job done, no one disrupting the system with seat swaps.
This guy could have just complied.and maybe later could have had a whinge on a review site like TripAdvisor.
Instead, what's the bet when he called in the cops he was hoping to play the victim/race card and it backfired?
Last edited by Mach E Avelli; 25th Mar 2023 at 11:21.
One time I was travelling SYD-SIN on SQ. I went to take my seat and a guy was there (economy) who said he would like to sit next to his wife.
The seat he offered me was in Business. We both cleared it with the Purser and I had a very comfortable flight. The crew were amazed he was happy to sit in economy and give up a good seat. I expect it was company travel and had to pay for his wife.
The seat he offered me was in Business. We both cleared it with the Purser and I had a very comfortable flight. The crew were amazed he was happy to sit in economy and give up a good seat. I expect it was company travel and had to pay for his wife.
One time I was travelling SYD-SIN on SQ. I went to take my seat and a guy was there (economy) who said he would like to sit next to his wife.
The seat he offered me was in Business. We both cleared it with the Purser and I had a very comfortable flight. The crew were amazed he was happy to sit in economy and give up a good seat. I expect it was company travel and had to pay for his wife.
The seat he offered me was in Business. We both cleared it with the Purser and I had a very comfortable flight. The crew were amazed he was happy to sit in economy and give up a good seat. I expect it was company travel and had to pay for his wife.
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Clearly a race-card revolt. I gotta navigate around these trouble making self righteous nuffies at work and play. HR teams are writing volumes about how to avoid and deal with them. Being a straight,white,C of E, Aussie male I'm at a disadvantage as soon as I walk out my front gate.
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